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tonight, breaking news. bin laden's son-in-law captured. the al qaeda operative behind bars in new york. >> is it adding insult to injury that he's here and not at guantanamo. >> also, animal instincts. >> i always feared it, always feared it would happen. >> could anything have saved dianna hanson, and should she have been in that cage in the first place? >> plus, the art ts formerly known as snoop dogg. >> what have you gone from dawg to lion? >> his name has changed but he's as outspoken as ever. on fame -- >> you have to know how to contain it and not abuse it. >> drugs. >> you don't hear people going out and doing crazy crimes on marijuana. >> guns. >> i could go and get a gun right now, just lierk that.

it shouldn't be that easy. >> this is "piers morgan tonight." >> good evening. we'll begin with breaking news tonight. osama bin laden's son-in-law, the man they called al qaeda's mouth piece is scheduled to be arraigned at 10:00 in the morning right here in new york. he's charged with conspiracy to kill u.s. nationals. his capture on the day the senate approved john brennan as the next director of the cia. today's news is intensifying another fierce debate, this one about the treatment of enemy combatants. listen to senator lindsey graham. >> we're putting the administration on notice. we think that sneaking this guy into the country clearly going around the intent of congress when it comes to enemy combatants will be challenged. if this man, the spokesman for 9/11, is not an enemy combatant, who would be?

>> joining me, fran townsend, former national security adviser to george w. bush, paul shank, also robert bair, jim richards who recovered his own son's body after 9/11, and attorney allen dursh wits. let me start with you, fran, to tee up what's really happened here because this character was first arrested in turkey. i'm not quite sure what he was doing there. then after 33 days he was released because turkish lot said he had to be. then he was flown to jordan. >> let's talk about what we didn't know. he had been in relative safety in house arrest in iran for a decade. why would he have left iran not knowing if he would have been taken into captivity? we don't know why he went to turkey. it seems pretty clear that the turks didn't want to have responsibility for his ultimate sort of how he was handled. and wanted him gone.

there was an agreement, clearly, that he would be accepted into jordan. there's a cia tip, and obviously, the cia is able to get custody of him through their jordanian allies so he could be transferred to the united states and fbi custody. >> also a major coup for the cia to pull in this guy, a front man for al qaeda. we have all seen him ranting after 9/11 and other atrocities. in terms of bringing him to new york, this is a significant change, as opposed to khalid sheikh mohammed. how significant is this and what is the thinking behind doing it this way? >> it's a significant coup for americans here. ten years ago, he was an al qaeda insider, very close to osama bin laden. he came down on the side of yes, we should attack the united states. so a major figure, but it's not clear over the last ten years how operationally involved he

has been within the terrorist network. and clearly now, he's going to be tried in new york. the family is here in new york will get to come to the court and see justice be done. >> bob, you know more about the cia's operations than many people. what do you make of this? it's pretty bond-like, isn't it? the way they swooped on this guy and pulled him into new york. clearly, caused a lot of eruptions over in washington. what do you think of the operation itself? >> oh, i think it was well done. i mean, picking him up in turkey, getting the turks to go along with this. there couldn't be exactly ecstat ecstatic about this, having a person like this crossing their country. shifting him to the jordanians who absolutely would go along and not send him on to kuwait, as was the plan originally, to extradite him, and then get him to new york. it was done well, and in addition, getting the fbi to actually take custody of the man is key to this operation because the chain of evidence is going

to go right from them into the court. and we're going to have a clean trial here. and i would probably say that we're going to see some intelligence out of abbottabad out of the court that will implicate this man in 9/11 or other crimes. >> alan, from a legal point of view, we have read all of the details of the charge sheet. on the face of it, not that strong, but as bob says, are we likely to get more meat on the bone later, do you think? >> i sure hope so. this is a very, very thin indictment. it's a typical mafia-like indictment. it starts by describing al qaeda and then says he was part of it, then it skips to after 9/11 and says basically after 9/11 he spoke to americans and said we're going to do it again. i would think there might be a rico charge ultimately, racketeering influence corrupt organization which know goes back ten years and doesn't require much specificity, or more elements that will come out of intelligence. if the case goes to trial on

this indictment, it's very far from a slam dunk that there will be a conviction. >> jim, you lost your son on 9/11. how do you feel this guy is going to be arraigned in a u.s. court in new york a few blocks from ground zero? >> the family is very happy he has been caught, and 3,000 people were murdered that day and finally we're starting to cap capture some of the terrorists. we were promised by obama in january of '09 swift and certain justice. there has been no justice for the families. we're outraged. i'm offended by lindsey graham. they played politics, the republicans and democrats, with the trials of these men. it's wrong. they should be brought to trial. 254 men have been tried in federal court, and it's gone well. now they try to play politics with this, and we have been held up. we're in pretrial motions with khalid shaikh mohammed. let's get the trials going in new york city. all of the people who were affected that day could go see

the trials. >> i think a lot of people would echo the sentiment. they don't want politics involved in this, but there are politics involved. lindsay graham very strong today. i'm sure other congressman and women will come out tomorrow saying similar stuff. what could happen politically? could this decision be overturned? >> i think that's unlikely. the way that the executive branch from the president on down from a policy perspective organized this operation, they organized it with the specific purpose of having this guy in federal court. it's a uniquely executive branch decision. so it's unlikely, there could be a lot of fuss about it. i think in fairness, while i think it's quite right to say there's politics being played, there is a reasonable legal debate to be had about whether or not you treat someone as a civil defendant and accord them constitutional rights they denied their own victims or you treat them as an enemy combatant. i think that's a fair legal

debate. i agree. >> they could be both. they could be both combatants and criminals. therefore, you really have a choice whether to treat them as a combatant or a criminal. >> that's right -- >> and they're making a choice. >> my only point is i think it's a righteous debate to be had. >> and that's my point. >> let's talk briefly about this man. he had been in iran, as we now know, for nearly a decade. if it turns out he had been involved in any plotting of al qaeda atrocities from iran, that's a big deal. >> that would be a big deal. in 2011, the treasury department asserted that iran and al qaeda were cooperating on certain issues, for example, moving fighters across that region. that would absolutely be a big deal, but this guy was a

spokesman for al qaeda in the year after 9/11. he came out with a lot of statements at that time. one of them was asserting the rights for al qaeda to kill 4 million americans, including with chemical weapons and biological weapons. some sof that will be used in court. >> fran, the argument about guantanamo, president obama, of course, tried to argue before he got elected the first time, that he wanted to shut it down, and then he didn't. it's pointed out if one of these people gets released and commits some appalling atraushty, he will be held accountable. is there an argument to say if this man was taken to guantanamo, they would get more out of him? >> i don't think -- look, i think we have to be honest. the best we can see right now, he's been out of the game for over a decade. the notion that there's any sort of realtime actionable intelligence, the odds of that are very small. so i don't think there's -- i don't think that's the argument to be made about whether or not you take him to guantanamo or

the criminal court. >> would you agree with that? you were in the cia, involved in this operation. would you want him at guantanamo or in the way it's being handled? >> the way it's being handled. look, there's nothing no decent intelligence has come out of guantanamo that we have ever seen. the senate has come out and looked at these interrogations, the hostile and otherwise, and it has not proven worth it. i think actually a trial, a lot of information will come out. i think a lot of testimony. and we need openness on what happened on 9/11. we're still not clear. we're not clear about the iranian role. i want to hear how he ended up there. i want to hear how four of the hijackers transited iran, then came back in 9/11. a lot of good stuff is going to come out of this. >> jim, the tsa has announced that knives will now be allowed on planes gin. i was surprised about that. you can't take a bottle of water, but you can take pen knives.

are you alarmed by this? >> totally offended. they cut one of the stewardesses throats. more people are going to die. 3 3,000 people were slaughtered that day. i picked up the body parts at 9/11 that day. i think obama or somebody ought to take charge now and say whoever made this decision, rescind it. nobody wants to see -- we all want to fly safely and get it done. it's wrong. somebody should step in right away. it seems like a nonsensical crazy idea that someone had. >> i can't think why anybody would need a knife on a plane. why do you need one? they were the last thing concerned. the water or something to eat, i get. but the knife, why would anyone need a knife on a flight? >> you're headed for another tragedy. those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. change the law.

>> let's talk about drones. extraordinary performance of senator rand paul yesterday. he talked and he talked and he talked. actually, it got more impressive the longer he went on and he did get some action. he got a response from eric holder. what did you make of it in. >> i think it's good to make this debate. you have to put it in a constitutional context. look, the police have a right to kill a fleeing felon if he's committed a dangerous offense or he's about to kill somebody, but drone is obviously a much more powerful weapon and a hell cat weapon that a pistol or a rifle, but the principle you don't have to have a trial before you kill somebody who is imminently likely to kill somebody, is wrong, and rand paul should have spent more time on that. whether or not we want to extent that to a military act of americans on american soil, holder was right where one can imagine a situation where someone is aiming rockets at the

pentagon or a school and the only way to get around is to use a drone, but he used bad hypothetical examples and he opened himself up to a lot of criticism. it's worth having a debate, but neither holder more rand paul made the debate. >> what did the international community make of the debate? there must be people in pakistan or afghanistan where drones are being used repeatedly saying why shouldn't a drone be allowed to be used in america? >> there's the added difficulty, right, if it's okay for americans to use drones around the world, why isn't it okay for foreign countries, iran, for example, to use a drone over the u.s. or in the u.s.? the problem is, the laws have not kept up with technology. so including international law, so i quite agree. i think it's worth having this debate. but i do think it has been too politicized and not nuanced enough.

>> listen, thank you all-star panel. it's not often we get such a panel of illustrious names at once. thank you all much for coming in. and bob, thank you for your contribution. >> coming up, new questions ability the horrific lion attack that killed a young intern. why was she in a cage alone with the wild animal? chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save. i don't have to leave my desk and get up and go to the post office anymore. [ male announcer ] with stamps.com you can print real u.s. postage for all your letters and packages. i have exactly the amount of postage i need,

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she was doing what she loved, and she did it with joy every day that she worked here. and she's going to be missed. i'm so sorry this has happened. >> a tearful apology from the president of project survival's cat haven where a 24-year-old intern was killed by a lion. the coroner said the 350-pound lion opened the gate between two cages and broke the neck of dianna hanson. the coroner said the victim did not suffer. there are a lot of questions. jenny michaels worked with that very lion and joins me along with patty finch. she says there's no safe way to

be inside a lion's cage. welcome to you both. patty, let me start with you. the more we learn about this, the more it looks like just an appalling accident in the sense that the lion appears to have got out of its own cage and into a second cage where this young intern was working. if that is the case, where would blame lie here? >> well, i hate to even talk about blame at this time, as i know the family's hurting, the sanctuary is hurting. it's just a very tragic situation all around. but the global federation of animal sanctuaries has specific standards and there is redundancy built into the safety protocols, and also for instance, big cat rescue in tampa, florida, an intern would never be allowed to be servicing the cage of a big cat.

it's simply not allowed. there's only four senior staff that can do that. with the cat locked out. >> right, i mean, jenny, we discussed this briefly yesterday. you have been down there. you met this very lion. we saw video footage of you with cuse cue. do you agree with what patty is saying? it does seem extraordinary that somebody so young and inexperienced could find herself in any kind of position where a lion could attack her. >> piers, i think that's a good question. you know, i don't feel comfortable answering that. i don't know what her experience was. you know, i can only say that while i was at project survival's cat haven, they were very professional. we went through a series of safety precautions during every one of those interviews, each one of those cats that we discussed, and that particular video that you're talking about, so all i can say is that while i was there, you know, we -- we took a lot of safety

precautions. >> patty, we're looking at pictures there of jenny with cous cous. he was a 350-pound lion. he was i think nearing five years old. reaching his male sexual maturity. and would therefore be potentially at his most dangerous, i'm led to believe. is that right? >> well, i think any adult felid is at their most dangerous and our standards at the global animal sanctuaries call for no human contact with these felids unpredicted, period. so no one ever enters a cage knowingly where a felid is loose. it's simply not done. it's not allowed and i don't think it should be allowed. >> what is extraordinary is that apparently there are no federal

regulations safeguarding animal workers. they exist just for the public. i was pretty shocked to hear that. i mean, there have been a number -- i think since 1995, we worked out, there have been 22 people killed by captive big cats. more than 248 have been mauled according to big cat rescue, an animal sanctuary in florida. you would have thought there could be by now be some kind of federal regulation relating to people who work at these places. >> yes, but there really is none. the laws protect the public but not the workers, not the interns, not the volunteers. and that's why we think our standards are so important. some sanctuaries don't even realize or whatever the facility is called, don't even realize when they're taking chances with these cats. they don't realize the power. they don't realize that even if you have reared one of these since it was a baby, something

can trigger them and probably will trigger them. it might be the musk in the perfume that you have on. it might be a car backfiring. anything can set them off. they're wired to be set off. >> i mean, jenny, we're still watching footage there of you with i think cous cous, amongst other animals and big cats. when you were in close proximity to cous cous, describe the kind of power that you feel. i had a full-sized cheetah here when jack hanna came in, and i was pretty startled, actually, just how powerful it felt to be in the presence of a big cat that close. >> you know, i felt safe when i was in close proximity with cous cous along with dale anderson. if you are watching that video, you'll notice that i am -- dale is in between myself and cous cous. and you know, i really felt the love there at the educational center.

i didn't feel the fear and, you know, the -- i felt that we went over a lot of safety precautions before i ever went in, and so you know, i didn't have that feeling of the fearlessness. >> dianna hanson's father gave a very moving interview earlier to cnn. he said this. let's take a listen. >> always had a bad premonition that some day those animals could turn on her, but she was absolutely fearless. she was no more afraid of the lions and tigers than she was of a house cat. just totally fearless. >> patty, it's an appalling tragedy that a young woman has lost her life. how do you feel about the fact that cous cous has also been shot and killed as a result of this? >> well, whenever people are allowing direct contact with these animals, they're not only putting themselves as risk and

any other people at risk, they're putting the animal at risk, as we see clearly here. they're putting law enforcement at risk. i just don't think they should have the right to do that. and for what gain? an ego gain? if you want to show affection to a big cat, you can do that with a nice, long cat back scratcher. you can truf a tiger. there's a lot of ways to play with an animal without contact. why expose everyone to that danger, including the animal. >> a very, very sad story. thank you for joining me. >> when we come back, a change of pace. the artist formerly known as snoop dogg talked about drugs, guns, and spiritual awakening. >> back in the day, gin and

>> back in the day, gin and juice, the hip-hop classic from snoop dogg. that was then, now the superstar

goes by a new name, snoop lion. part of his remarkable transformation. from movies to music to coaching football. he does it all. mr. lion, thank you for coming. >> thank you. >> i'm a huge fan of yours. tell me why you have dawn from dogg to lion? >> it's a transformation musically, spiritually, and mentally. i went to jamaica on a journey to make some music and it eventually became, you know, engulfed with the spirit of rostafarri and the spirit of reggae music, and the transformation was nesary. it became what it is. >> jamaica is a special place, isn't it? i have good friends from there, u usain bolt and others. it's a special place. >> it is. once you engulf jamaica, it takes over you. no matter what kind of person you are, it's a spirit of love and caring and giving that becomes a part of you. once i became a part of jamaica

and the culture and music, it took me in as a brother. >> bob marley is up there smiling down on you. >> that's what it's about. to me, the whole title of the record reincarnated is because i felt like i was bob marley reincarnated. and i felt like i was making music that wasn't representing the essence i wanted. i wanted it to get me to essence or the white house or let me say something. it never spoke from the true place i wanted to speak from, a place of love. >> this is your direct quote, it ain't about money. it's about respect. explain to me what you mean by that. >> a lot of people have money but don't have respect, and a lot of people with respect don't have money. so when you do get money, you shouldn't let money be the tool or the vehicle, you should always focus on giving respect and getting respect at the same time because the money could be taken away at any given point. >> have you had times in your life where you have had plenty

of money but been very disrespectful? have you been that other person? >> definitely. that's what comes s s with interritory, especially when you don't know what to do with the money or how to handle it. you let it become the direction of your life. until you understand what life is all about, then you put money back in its properly perspective. >> when you see the problems in places like chicago with predominantly young black men in their late teens, often involved in this gang violence, you have been in that position. what are the real causes, do you think? and what are the best possible ways of resolving it? >> it's miscommunication somewhere. it's a miscommunication with the people in the community and the youth. because the youth are in revolt. they're doing what they want to do because no one is there to give them directions on what they need to do. when i came up, we had certain criteria of gangsters we looked up to who were called o.g.s. they would teach us and show us the appropriate way to do it.

nowadays, there aren't too many ogs who take the time to give these guys the guidance and direction. so they're misguided and they're out there walking around taking their own direction. >> you're a very loving husband and father. how much of that is a problem with these young kids and these gangs where they don't have perhaps a father figure? they have a very dysfunctional family background? and what's the best way of tackling that? >> i think that's 95% of the problem. because if you don't have nobody to match what your mother is teaching you, if your mother is teaching you to do what is right and you don't have that father figure there, you tent to do what is wrong. the best way to help that problem is to stay a community, stay organized and together. it takes a village to raise one kid. one thing about my community when i came up, it wasn't just about my mother. if i did something wrong, somebody down the street could check me and get me back in the pocket. now there's. no rule or understanding when a kid is wrong or right.

>> you were born calvin broaddus in long beemp, california. does anyone ever call you calvin anymore? >> no, because i have become snoop. >> must be somebody? >> probably the people i went to school with, some of the officials, some of the law enforcement who have seen my life drastically change in the appropriate way. >> there's my friend calvin. >> yes, sir. >> where you grew up, 20% of the people who live there lived under the poverty line. you came from a pretty tough background. when you see the economic strife so many americans are having now, what is your message to them? obviously, you made an incredible success of your life. when you look back on how you did that and how you broke free from the gangs and everything else, and from poverty, what do you think were the key determinators in doing that? >> one of the keys was separating myself, closing the gap. i had to close a gap between me and my friends.

a lot of my friends weren't going to go where i wanted to go and didn't have the vision to go where i wanted to go, so i had to close the gap and learn how to association with them or without and love them but do my journey without them because it was not going to work with them not having the same vision as me and not having the same work ethic and the same beliefs as far as i had to relinquish all of my drug selling duties. i didn't sell drugs, i didn't gang bang. i left it alone when i became snoop dogg the rapper. i wasn't a star. so there were sacrifices i had to make that my friends weren't willing to make. i say to you, whatever you're willing to do in life, you have to be willing to make that sacrifice first and foremost and stand on your own two feet and be a leader, not a follower. >> that takes supreme self discipline and dedication, doesn't it? >> yes, sir, but at the same time, you get it with the hard knocks of the streets.

i was hard headed. my mother taught me the right ways and things to do to avoid going to jail and being incarcerated, but i was hard headed and didn't listen to her. i chose to go out there and rumble with the homies because i didn't have a father figure at home. that didn't mean she didn't do her best. i understand what the mothers are going through as far as having a child without a father to be there to raise them wrfrb. >> let's take a look at the documentary "reincarnated." it comes out of march 15th. let's watch a bit of this. >> my life is in stages, you know what i mean? >> we the jury find the defendant calvin broaddus not guilty of the crime of murder in the first degree. >> whether it's me performing live on the stage -- >> let me hear you say snoop dogg. >> going through stages in life. that's what my life has always been based on. and that's what forced me to

find a new path. >> very powerful in parts. it's been called funny, disarming, poignant. i doubt you have been called poignant too many times in your early life. do you feel lucky to be alive when you look back over everything you came through? >> i feel very lucky and blessed at the same time because i have seen a lot of people not make it, and i was in positions where i could have been right along with them, and you know, i feel like when you're here, you're here for a reason and you need to do the right thing and do more of what's necessary as opposed to what's unnecessary. >> you have written a very powerful song about guns which i want to come back and talk to you after the break. it's called "no guns allowed" and it has a very eloquent and evocative message i want to discuss with you in a moment.

>> latest music video, here comes the king from the album reincarnated out in april. i'm back with snoop lion. you were a gangster rapper, we have discussed this. you have now written a song called "no guns allowed." what was the inspiration for this? because it for you represented a pretty big u-turn in your life. >> what it was, it was certain scenarios in my life where i had guns in my life and i ran into a situation with the law where they came through my house and took all of the guns out of my house and put my family through a whole lot of unnecessary abuse and what not, and can felt like i got to the point in my career and my life where i didn't need guns in my life because i didn't project that energy. i felt like i was positive and peaceful. at the same time, i kept hearing about all these school shootings and these people getting guns in their hands and not knowing what to do with them and going on a rampage, so it really touched me and affected me to where i wanted to say something and make

some music to try to help the next person thinking about loading to a gun, going to a school and shooting, maybe helping him put the gun down and think about what he was doing or what she was doing before they did that. >> i mean, the gun is to many people in america a symbol of power. it may be involving membership of a gang or it may be a crazed young mass shooter who wants to make a name for himself. whatever it may be, at the center of it is a sense of it empowers you. you have felt that, and you have renounced that power. why do so many people, you think, associate the gun with some form of self-esteem? >> first of all, we are guilty as americans of promoting the gun as one of the most highly touted things you could have in your life. whether it's good or bad, we have always done that from the time i was a kid. i would always see pictures and movies with my favorite guys with guns, and you know, them toting them around and doing whatever they did with them. and then when it got to the point where the gun became a

part of your everyday life where people were getting killed and people were dying, then you had to really take into account, is this gun really necessary? is it necessary for me to have this gin, or is it better for me not to have a gun? they say it's better to be caught with than without, but once you get older, it's better not to have one. >> when you look at the gun debate in america right now, it clearly polarized people, it's extremely emotive. i have had many angry exchanges now with people who say anyone who wants gun control is damaging their second amendment rights and so on. what do you think of the debate? >> i don't think we should get rid of guns. we just need to get them out of the wrong hands and there should be more provisions to get a gun and there should be more put on that. you see the results when they're in the wrong hands. tragedies, kids losing their lives, people unexpectedly being shot upon. i mean, this is horrific, man, so we have to try to figure out how to control it. if we don't, who will? so it is a time for change.

some of these laws that were written in the 1800s need to be tweaked for the 2000s. that's just what it is. i can go get a gun right now, just like that. it shouldn't be that easy. >> how much responsibility should the music industry take in terms of allowing other rappers to write songs which glorify the use of guns? hollywood with movies that do the same? you say yourself you were affected by the hollywood movies you saw. violent video games? >> me personally, i love entertainment for what it is, but when the entertainment comes off the screen and becomes a part of your everyday life, then it becomes frightening and you have to figure out what is the best move to prevent something like that from happening again? because we still haven't thought of a way to prevent these tragedies from happening. they could happen at any given moment moment. >> one of the things you have done very successfully is try to give people an option perhaps to running with gangs and so on. a lot of it has to do with the

snoop youth football league. tell me about that. >> snoop youth football league was created eight years ago for me to give back to the single parents and kids who were avected by gun violence. it's a program where football costs $100 for a kid to play, they play all season, they have to maintain a 2.0 gpa and through the likes of the program, we put guys through division i such as d'anthony thomas, ronny hillman who plays for the broncos. we sent guys to division i programs and high school. we're so proud of our program for being able to step in these guys' lives and give them something. at the same time, we bring a lot of gang-related communities together who would have never worked together, but because of the kids, they're all intertwined in the snoop youth football league. now you have all of these different gang neighborhoods working together for one cause, to keep these kids playing football. in the snoop youth football league. >> it's excellent what you do and i salute you for that. there should be a lot more of it. let's take another break. i want to come back can tell you about what willie nelson told me about you and some rather long

nights in amsterdam, mr. lion. >> yeah, man.

that's "daddy's girl," the music video. back now with mr. lion. i like calling you mr. lion. >> ya, man. i like the way you say it. >> you're a very talented family. two sons and a daughter. your son is a high school football star. offered a scholarship to ucla. you must be personally thrilled with that. >> i'm so ecstatic. i used to have to pay to make him play football back in the days. now he loves football. he's giving me all he can give me. i'm loving that. >> and working with your daughter, that must be a buzz. >> yeah, my baby girl, she's singing and doing her thing and having fun. she just did her cover of the taylor swift song "trouble" with her friend gabby. >> do you have any concerns about them entering the tawdry world of show business? >> no, not really because i feel like they've been spooned and groomed by being around me and

me giving them the uncut version as opposed to hiding it and keeping them away from it. i've showed them from day one. >> is fame a lethal drug in many ways? how have you learned to deal with what fame is about? >> fame is definitely a lethal drug. you have to know how to contain it and know how to not abuse it because it can get the best of you. you can expect too much out of it. fame is meant to last for 15 minutes, but some of us know how to make it last a little longer. at the same time, you can't let it get the best of you. >> now, let's go to another very famous man, willie nelson, who i had on the show recently. here's what he had to say about you, mr. lion. do you take a lot of it? >> i think some people have more tolerance for smoking pot than others. i know people who can take one hit and just go to sleep completely. other guys can smoke a lot. me and snoop smoke a lot. in every country we've been in,

i guess. i was in amsterdam one time. snoop called me, want med ed me to sing on his record. he says, where are you? i said amsterdam. he takes the next flight over and we recorded a song together. >> you and snoop go to amsterdam amsterdam, the mecca of dope, really, both have a lot of it and write some music together. >> now we can go to colorado. >> so he's landed you right in it there. >> wow. that's special, man. i love willie nelson. i'm going to give you a story real quick. on that trip in amsterdam, we had so much fun. you know, our minds were going, so we went to kentucky fried chicken. we ordered some food. they brought the food through the drive through, so they had this box of chicken. me and willie sat side by side, put our hands in at the same time, and put our hands on the same piece of chicken. i said, you know what, that's yours, willie.

>> he is a fantastic guy. i really want to come on one of your road trips. >> you'd have a blast. we can hit kentucky, do whatever else you guys are up to. should marijuana now be legalized? >> it's more medical than anything. it does more to creatively help you as opposed to hurt you. you don't hear people going out and doing crazy crimes under marijuana. none of that. you see people calm, relaxed, and dealing with their medical problems. either staying to themselves and being on their own little ride. >> finally, barack obama, first african-american president. how did that make you feel? how do you think he's done? >> man, that made me feel, you know, like anything can happen in this world if you put your mind to it and you work hard and color has nothing to do with it. it's all about the ability to be the best at what you are. i feel like he's going a great job because, you know, he did

take over the white house that was kind of half clean. bills wasn't paid, doors was unlocked, cars wasn't running. he had to get things back in order before he could actually put his plan together. i'm just so blessed they gave him a second opportunity and a second run to continue to do great things to keep this country floating in the right direction. >> finally, how hard do i have to work and how much money do i have to earn to be able to afford a necklace like your lion necklace? >> you my partner. i got one coming to you on the house. >> you are my man. i think that's the right phrase. >> yes, sir. >> snoop lion, it's been a great pleasure. >> thank you. >> waited a long time and you delivered. snoop's documentary comes out march 15th. the album drops on april 23rd. love the sound of the album. >> thank you. >> jamaica meets snoop dog. great to see you. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back.